Some info on the 4.3 release

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Some info on the 4.3 release

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Here's a bit more info on the 4.3 release:

This is about desktop version 10.2: https://www.multitrackstudio.com/version102.php
The Per-note articulation, Duplicate Track and Sing your pitchbends! paragraphs apply to the iPad version as well.

This page, from the desktop version manual, describes how to use audio-to-MIDI plugins:
https://www.multitrackstudio.com/audiotomidiplugins.php


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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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Thanks for the nice update! My highlights are the improved pencil support and duplicate tracks functionality. Compared one iPad which has not been updated yet and the pencil works much better in the new version, in particular for me moving notes around in the score editor (*really* smooth selection/movement!) and lassoing in the piano-roll.

Edit - should have read your whole post!
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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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MisplacedDevelopment wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:54 pm My highlights are the improved pencil support and duplicate tracks functionality.
They're both user requests.

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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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I'm glad I checked in here. Looking at the notes, I was delighted to see the "sing your pitch bends" feature!

The idea of converting either pitch or amplitude to CC is quite useful, and has some fascinating potential.
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stubbsonic wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:53 pm The idea of converting either pitch or amplitude to CC is quite useful, and has some fascinating potential.
It has been on the todo list since 2009 (!!)


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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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Giel, I am experiencing what may either be a regression with the new version or something that iOS 15.x introduced (not sure which as I upgraded both around the same time). Basically, if I have two tracks each containing the same MIDI generator such as Atom 2/Helium/LK then the MIDI from the first instance is routed to the second track regardless of the channel that track is listening on or the channel of the note being produced by the generator. If I add a third track then the MIDI is routed there instead of the second track. The built-in arpeggiator does not appear to be affected. I can reproduce this on two different iPads both at the latest release of the OS and MTS.
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I can reproduce this with iOS 15. Older iOS versions don't have this problem.

Apple reworked MIDI for AU in iOS 15 in order to pave the way for MIDI 2.0. Looks like something went wrong there.

Do other apps have this issue too, or is it just MTS?


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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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I have done a similar test with two tracks of Atom 2 inside NS2, Audio Evo Mobile, BM3 and Cubasis 3 and I do not see this behaviour in any of those. I believe MTS is the only DAW though to support MIDI 2.0 on iOS at this time so that might not be too surprising if this is MIDI 2.0 related.
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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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Thanks for testing this.

MTS uses some part of the AU API that probably no other iOS app uses. It makes a lot of sense to use this for code that comes from macOS, that why MTS uses it. Looks like Apple broke something there.

It doesn't have to do with the fact that MTS support MIDI 2.0 by the way. In fact, MTS doesn't even support MIDI 2.0 for AU output yet because I was afraid it would cause problems. Well, the problems came anyway :x


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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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Looks like the AU MIDI output routing issue should be solved in iPadOS 15.2 beta 3. Haven't tried it myself.


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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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That’s a pretty quick fix turnaround by Apple standards!
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Apple is (very) actively working towards MIDI 2.0. They break something every now and then - pretty much all MIDI apps started crashing in iOS 14.2 for example. But they do fix it quickly in my experience. That probably makes sense given that they apparently seek to shine in the MIDI area :mrgreen:


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Meanwhile I've verified that iPadOS 15.2 beta 3 fixes the issue indeed.


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Re: Some info on the 4.3 release

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Support wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:45 pm Meanwhile I've verified that iPadOS 15.2 beta 3 fixes the issue indeed.


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Yes, I have just installed 15.2 and it fixes the problem with MIDI being sent to the wrong track.
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